Category Archives: Buying a Boat

Buy a Boat, Buying a Buy

Cape Hatteras

Boat Delivery: Do It Yourself or Hire a Pro?

Cape Hatteras

A delivery around Cape Hatteras in an unfamiliar boat takes serious preparation.

Anyone buying a boat via the Internet these days may want to consider the delivery aspect of getting the boat home. Trailering is one thing, but delivering a boat on its own bottom up or down the coast is quite another. During my merchant mariner days, I occasionally delivered boats during my mandatory time off between work assignments. What could be more fun than taking someone else’s boat and getting paid for it, right?

I got out of the business pretty quickly because most of the boats I delivered just weren’t ready for a long trip. Oh, they were fine locally, but a 1,000-mile offshore trip was a different beast. I found myself doing more boat prep than sailing—after all, I had my own safety at stake, as well as my responsibility to get the boat back in one piece. I tired of mundane tasks that an owner might not have attended to, like filling propane tanks, checking life rafts and safety equipment, and having the right charts for the voyage.

So the other day when my friend Will called to ask me to help deliver a 44-foot sailboat from South Carolina to Rhode Island, I hesitated just a bit before asking a lot of questions. It turns out the new owner had purchased the boat from — you guessed it — an Internet listing. The boat is being prepped by a local yard down south, and we are busy trying to arrange crew, flights, shakedown and inspection issues, not to mention the 750-mile trip around Cape Hatteras.

Most of the time, new owners want to deliver their new toys themselves, and may even conscript some friends who think it will be fun to help out. Let me tell you, it’s a lot of work to make sure all runs smoothly. Some years ago, I did the same thing as a new owner, delivering my own new boat from the Gulf of Maine to Cape Cod. My crew consisted of my 12-year-old son and some gung-ho coworkers without a lot of sailing experience. What a fool I was! It was early spring, the water was frigid (no survival suits) and if I had gotten hurt or incapacitated during the trip it was unlikely any of my sea-sick helpers would have made it back alive without me.  I was not familiar with the new boat and relied on others to prep it. Fortunately, everything turned out fine and it was quite an adventure. We made the trip in just a few days, despite the fact that we left shortly after a furious storm blew through—all because of work-related scheduling pressure.

If you are delivering your new boat yourself, here’s my advice on how to get it home safe and sound:

  • Make sure your boat insurance is in place.
  • Choose experienced crew who can operate and navigate the boat without you being on deck constantly.
  • Go for a shakedown cruise prior to the trip!
  • Be prepared for some extra expenses the shakedown may reveal.
  • Give yourself plenty of time.
  • Wait for the weather window.
  • Have some options for ducking into port along the way if things go bad.

If you’re constrained by work schedules or crew capability you may want to hire a pro. And if you do hire a pro, but want to go along as crew, let them run the show—you’re paying for their experience and objective view of your new boat’s preparedness. Good luck!

old boat under tarp

How to Scare Off Boat Buyers

old boat under tarp

Who knows what lurks under that tarp -- classic, derelict, or something in between? As a seller, you have to be straightforward in your description and realistic about price.

Maybe it’s the white beard and sunburnt face that encourages people to ask my opinion about boats they are interested in buying. I prefer to think it has been my seagoing experience and myriad jobs in the marine industry that make me qualified. Obviously, I’ve never been bashful about expressing my opinion. I believe there are infinite matches of boats with owners depending on what they want to do and where they want to sail. Whatever the reasons, I have had very few occasions to pan a boat, especially given my attitude that almost any boat can be fixed.

So, I was somewhat surprised to get a call this week from a frustrated and angry owner who tracked me down late one night to express his unhappiness that I had cost him a sale. He claimed that I had written an article, Black Fin in the Rough, that scared away a prospective buyer.

I asked him if he’d actually read the article, which was about the value and work involved with buying a boat neglected for years on the hard, and meant to be a cautionary tale for used boat buyers who could easily bite off more than they bargained for. He admitted that he hadn’t read the article, but spouted “quotes” from the prospective buyer who had read my piece. It turns out that the current owner found a local boatyard to take the boat, clean it, get the engines running without any up-front cost to him, then broker the boat.

I have no idea what was said between the parties, but suffice it to say, someone who was about to buy was suddenly turned off when the history of the boat was revealed. Truth be told, this is the second time someone walked away when I inadvertently revealed the background and maintenance history of a boat. I didn’t do it maliciously, but it is pretty certain that if you are selling a boat, one sure way to kill a deal and scare off that prospective buyer is to misrepresent or not fully disclose what you’re selling. The Blackfin 32 is a good ocean boat, and if a professional yard went through it completely and got those Cat diesel 3208s purring like kittens, it is probably worth 50K. But buyers beware — we have no lemon laws or CarFax equivilents in our industry, which is why most people hire professional marine surveyors before consummating any deal. There are legitimate reasons why people get scared off.

engine alignment

Inboard Engine Alignment

engine alignment

Aligning the engine with the shaft is key to eliminating vibration.

If you have an inboard engine on your boat and have excessive vibration, it may be due to the engine not being properly aligned with the shaft. Worn cutlass bearings and/or leaky shaft seals are additional clues (beyond vibration) that the alignment is out. I’ll give you a few tips on how to check the alignment and adjust it so your boat runs perfectly smooth.

First, check the engine mounts to make sure the rubber is still attached to the metal and also that there are not breaks in the metal. Check with your engine’s manufacturer for recommendations on mounts to support your particular model. Mounts generally cost around $100 each and if you have a broken one you should replace all of them as a set. Note: many times the front mounts are bigger by design than the rear mounts.

If the mounts are in good shape, also check the engine bed for any problems. Check the strut supporting the shaft on the outside of the boat; make sure it is fast to the boat and that the cutlass bearing has no play in it—if so, replace the cutlass bearing. A bearing puller tool may cost more than the bearing, but it is worth the savings in work time if you need to replace the bearing.engine coupling

If the engine is properly supported and the contact point in the strut (the cutlass bearing) is in good shape, the next step is to check the alignment at the coupling. The coupling attaches the shaft to the end of the transmission. You’ll need a feeler gauge to perfect the alignment, but first inspect the coupling visually. There are typically four or more bolts attaching the two plates. Ideally, these should be tight and the coupling surfaces parallel. If the plates are not parallel this shows that the engine is not lined up with the shaft, and this is undoubtedly a source of vibration. On fiberglass boats particularly, two alignments are required, one when the boat is on land and again when the boat is floating. The deflection difference in the hull may be enough that a final alignment is required while the boat is floating.

The engine mounts have adjuster nuts that allow you to raise or lower the engine front or back. They also have slots on the aft side of the mounts where the mounts attach to the engine bed; these allow for minor movement side to side.  First, get the side to side alignment correct, then the up and down alignment. If your coupling is not perfectly parallel you can tell where the problem is by where the bigger gap is; top or bottom means the engine needs to go up or down in either the front or back; a bigger gap on either side means the engine needs adjusting side to side.

cutlass bearing

The brass tube with rubber sleeve is the cutlass bearing. If it is worn by a misaligned engine, it can be removed by backing off the set screw and either using a press or by cutting with a hacksaw blade.

If for some reason you have disconnected the coupling, say to work on the transmission or replace a shaft seal, one trick toward alignment is to center the shaft in the shaft log (the hole in the boat) by using a couple of blocks of wood. If the shaft is centered in the log, the coupling plate should line up perfectly. Otherwise go back to the step above to align the engine with the shaft. If the shaft is not centered in the shaft log you can expect to have leaks.

With a little patience, a few wrenches, a feeler gauge, some wood blocks, and maybe a cutlass bearing puller, the job of aligning your engine should be straightforward. Don’t forget to check the alignment again while the boat is in the water. Smooth boating!

 

pulling tail shaft

Boat Vibration: Chasing Down the Culprits

Engine Mounts

The four rusty mounts were still intact after 30 years, but they were the wrong size so we replaced them anyway.

Fiberglass boats built in the 1980’s are numerous and, with routine maintenance, fun to own. The routine maintenance caveat is a cautionary tale. Let me tell you about one problem that a competent do-it-yourself sailor, my friend Jeff, encountered — and the can of worms it opened.

Jeff bought his 1984 30-foot sailboat about 12 years ago. While he has spent many years focused on structural issues (see Fiberglass Core Repairs, Part One, and Rotten to the Core: Fiberglass Core Repair, Part Two), and optimizing his boat for racing, one thing he did not address was the vibration issues he had with his small Yanmar 2GM engine. Oh, he was going to fix that problem, but sailing was always a priority and he and I both thought it was a simple engine alignment problem. To that end, he borrowed my good box end wrenches many years ago with the idea that once the boat was floating he could perform a final alignment. Note: engine alignments done on land require a second final alignment after the vessel is afloat, due to the flex of the hull.

A couple of years ago, Jeff also started having problems getting his two-blade folding prop to open. He’d gun the engine forward and back, trying to get the centrifugal force to open the blades, but more often than not just one blade would open, the boat would shudder, and whatever alignment problems might have existed paled in comparison to this new vibration. Determined to find the problem he consulted with another friend who had had similar problems. He told Jeff that the problem was that the transmission was slipping and wasn’t engaging with enough force to spin the prop open.

tranny open

The inside of the transmission for a Yanmar 2GM engine has two conical disks (center) that needed cleaning and lapping to work properly.

This past winter, after checking the prop and cutlass bearing, Jeff bit the bullet and removed the transmission. It was not too difficult to do except for the confined space of his engine compartment. He soaked the bolts with some PB Blaster and, with a small pipe to act as a breaker bar, was able to remove the shaft coupling and exhaust hose to access the transmission. When the transmission was out of the boat and its case was open, sure enough, the two conical disks that engage the engine were shiny smooth. Cleaning the conical disks with emery cloth and then using lapping compound to mate the surfaces seemed to do the trick, giving the tranny the friction it needed to operate. (Previously, with the engine off but in gear, he could turn the shaft in either direction by hand). Even on the bench there was a huge difference, and so I was called to help put everything back together on his boat.

Since Jeff accepted that a number of small things beyond the transmission could contribute to the problem, and the hassle of working in the confined space meant he’d rather not revisit any of them,  he determined to also replace the engine mounts and address other opportunities for preventative maintenance while he had the engine compartment apart, such as installing a new dripless shaft seal (the old stuffing box was out of wadding and leaked profusely), swapping out the original 30-year old Racor fuel filter, installing a new exhaust hose, and fixing a broken through-hull ball-valve handle.

pulling tail shaft

Pulling the shaft out to clean it with wet-dry sandpaper so the dripless shaft seal would work properly.

The forsythia was just about to bloom here in the Northeast as I arrived at the boatyard to help install the new engine mounts. The job took us only a couple of hours. Using a scissor jack and a couple of small pieces of plywood to protect the boat’s sole and the engine from damage, we were able to lift the engine just enough to remove the old mounts. The rubber in the old mounts appeared to be sound and although rusty, the metal on the mounts was OK. One potential problem may have been that the engine mounts were all the same. Yanmar specifies that the front mounts on a 2GM be bigger than the rear mounts—so maybe having the wrong, smaller-than-specified mounts contributed to our vibration problems.

engine mounts

An engine mount should last

We got the new mounts in, refit the tranny, and did a rough alignment with the coupling (with the drive shaft centered in the shaft log). The next day, the dripless shaft seal was fitted and the coupling bolted back together. Things are looking good and with only three weeks before launch Jeff is focused on fixing the ball valve handle, installing new exhaust hose, and his new Racor before hopefully buttoning up the engine space for the next 30 years.

We’ll do the final alignment when the boat gets launched and see if we solved the myriad problems. I did get my box end wrench set back as the new mounts turned out to be metric instead of standard thread, and so the wrenches were no longer needed. I don’t know how much one issue might have caused another, but I am satisfied that fixing all the problems while we had the lid up will contribute to a better, more vibration-free and worry-free boating season.

 

Cruisers Sport Series 238

Cruisers Sport Series 238: Can Do.

The Wisconsin boatbuilders at Cruisers Yachts have been mighty busy lately, celebrating 60 years in business by creating a bunch of new models in all sizes, from the Cantius and Express big-boat series to the Cruisers Sport Series.

Cruisers Sport Series 238

According to reviewer Lenny Rudow, the Cruisers Sport Series 238 has fun written all over it.

The new Sport Series 238 is a case in point. As one of the smaller boats in the line-up, it’s also one of the most versatile and fun. With a 5-liter Mercury MPI for power, this bow-rider tops out at over 40 mph and can provide a platform for any pursuit, from touring to swimming to tow-sports to cocktail lounging.

As an intro to all the goings-on at Cruisers, read Lenny Rudow’s review of the 238 and check out this video of his on-water test in Palm Beach. Some reviewers have all the luck.

YouTube Preview Image
Cruisers Sport Series 238

An overhead view of the 238 shows the many talents of this bow-rider.

For more of Lenny’s reviews of a full range of new Cruisers boats, including on-water videos, see the following:

marine sanitation

Marine Toilets: The Basics

marine head

Moving up to a boat with a fixed toilet is a great step forward for your family and friends.

One  difference between a “guys” open boat and a boat intended for mixed company or the entire family, is a marine toilet or head. Graduating from peeing over the side or, in a pinch, using a bucket, to a boat with a fixed head means you can stop worrying about the inevitable call of nature for you and your guests and just relax. If you are looking to buy a boat with a head, here are some things to consider.

When I managed a large yacht yard, we had a full-time, year-round staff that dealt with marine sanitation systems. It was a nasty job to fix or unblock someone else’s toilet, but it was always in demand and that group of dedicated pros saved many a vacation by getting the head(s) operating again. There are three basic types of marine head: self contained porta-pottys that usually cost around $100, fixed plumbing systems with a holding tanks that cost under $1,000, and complex systems that can treat raw sewage so it’s safe to pump directly overboard. These are even more expensive, typically have both power and fresh water connected to them, and unless you’re really handy, generally require service by a trained professional to repair and maintain.

marine sanitation

A simple toilet with a holding tank setup may require hose replacement after a number of years.

Holding tanks are the most common setup, with treatment-system heads usually reserved for larger live-aboard vessels. The trouble with holding tanks is that the typical plastic tank and plumbing hoses can acquire a smell after a few years that permeates the boat, even when the tank is empty. There are a number of deodorizers that you can put directly in the toilet and pump through the system, but on boats over 10 years old you may be better off replacing the tank and/or plumbing than trying to mask the smell. This is not difficult to do and most DIY boaters can use the old system to template a replacement for $200 to $300  dollars. Anyone buying a used boat of any age should consider this one of those inevitable maintenance issues. Tanks are available in almost any size or configuration and if necessary can be made to order. My one suggestion here is to use the higher-grade hoses in your replacement project, the kind that does not absorb the smell easily—and don’t forget to replace the vented loop hose and make sure the vent screen is clear, too. Holding tank systems usually use raw water from whatever you are floating on. The heads in saltwater boats can tend to have more smell than those in freshwater boats, just from the critters and seaweed that pass through the system.

A self-contained porta-potty may do the trick on a smaller boat for around $100, provided you have some privacy. You’ll have to empty the tank yourself, but many harbors and camping areas now have pump-out stations that can deal with porta-pottys as well as traditional holding tanks.

If you’re considering a boat with a sanitation system that treats sewage before discharge, I recommend you look at the boat’s service records to determine if the system has been kept up to date. Inspection by a qualified pro with that particular brand may keep you from trying to save your vacation down the road. It is absolutely amazing the things landlubbers will try to flush down a marine head, and which ultimately bollux up the works.  A pre-trip word with your guests about toilet etiquette onboard will save you many an uncomfortable discovery.

  • Use biodegradeable toilet paper only!
  • Use in moderation: If it is yellow, let it mellow, if it is brown, flush it down.
  • The fines for overboard discharge of untreated sewage are rising; protect the environment you use for recreation; get acquainted with the local pump-out facilities and personnel.
  • One part bleach to 10 parts water should kill any bacteria in any cleanup.
  • Prior to haulout flush, clean, and pump dry your holding tank. Once on the hard, drain any water in the toilet to prevent freeze-up damage during winter storage.

It’s good to give your family and guests  a more refined approach than a bucket. Congratulations on graduating.

Here’s a good link to all manner of marine sanitation options.

The Volvo Penta 4.3-liter V6 with EFI

Marine Engines: EFI vs. Carbureted Models

The Volvo Penta 4.3-liter V6 with EFI

The Volvo Penta 4.3-liter V6 with EFI

Say you’re looking at two lightly used runabouts with Volvo Penta propulsion. One is a 2011 model with a base 4.3-liter V6 with 50 hours on it. The other is a 2012 model, also with a base 4.3-liter V6, but this one has 100 hours on it.  They’re listed for the same price. Which one do you buy?

The one with lower hours, of course, right?

Not so fast.

In 2012, Volvo Penta did away with carburetors on all its engines, so in this case, you likely would be better off going with the boat with more hours on it. Why? Fuel injection rules. The superior operating characteristics, the lack of maintenance, and the abbreviated winterization make it the better call. EFI also is safer because the sealed fuel system stands much less chance to leak or spew fuel vapors under the hatch in the engine compartment. What’s more, the 2012-and-up Volvo Pentas also feature electronic throttle control and advanced engine monitoring systems.

“For many years, a low-horsepower engine was a boater’s first experience with a sterndrive boat,” said Clint Moore, President and CEO of Volvo Penta of the Americas in the initial press release. “Times have changed. As with today’s car buyers, a new boater is more knowledgeable than ever before, with understandably high expectations. We believe those expectations are only met by higher-horsepower, more technically sophisticated engines. We build the engines that are designed to keep people in boating.”

The move away from carbureted engines was long overdue, and not long after Volvo Penta kicked carburetors to the curb, MerCruiser began offering EFI on its entry-level 3.0-liter four-cylinder stern drive engines. Hallelujah.

The reality is that marine engine companies no longer need to create their own EFI systems because fuel-injection technology is so abundant. They only need to adapt what already exists, and there is enough sales volume in the marine market to justify it.

“Our decision to exit the low-horsepower, carbureted engine market allowed our engineers to focus their energy on creating state-of-the-art propulsion packages designed to deliver great boating experiences, even at the entry level,” Moore said.

Something to think about as you pore through the listings on BoatTrader.com.

Boat Buying Reimagined: All-New Boat Trader iPad App

Introducing the all-new, essential app for boat buyers. Check out our video, then download the app to start looking for your new boat today.

YouTube Preview Image

Larger photos

10 Things We Love about our New App:

10. Weather Widget.

Nothing is more inspirational than a clear forecast while shopping for a boat.

9.  Immersive videos.

Seller-submitted videos allow you to view the boat you want from every angle, straight from the iPad app.

8.  Larger photos.

Seeing is believing; our new, clean, and enlarged photo view will make boat shopping an experience.

7. Instant dealer inventory access.

If you’ve got a reference for a good dealership, locate them in the Boat Trader app to automatically see all of the inventory they offer.

Cleaner, simpler search

6. Geo-targeted dealer location.

Can’t stand to wait? Automatically locate dealers in your

immediate area to get out on the docks right away.

5. Faster contact.

When you find a boat you like, our “Contact Seller” button will instantly send your message to a dealer, getting you faster customer service.

4.  Cleaner, simpler search.

Search by make or model straight from the homepage.

3.  Search by activity.

Search for boats to fit your lifestyle, from freshwater fishing to wakeboarding.

2.  Easily refine your search.

Easily refine your search.

Too many to choose from? Easily refine your search results by price, location, length, make, or model to help narrow down your options.

1.  It’s not our old ipad app.

You asked for superior search, comprehensive listings, brilliant photos, and immersive video. We listened.

Click here to download the all-new Boat Trader iPad app.

bayliner 2452

Used-Boat All-Star: Bayliner 2452

bayliner 2452

The Bayliner 2452 is a good multifunction boat, capable of providing comfort on the lakes or on short open-water passages.

“Price reduced! too good to miss! 24 ft 1993 Bayliner Classic 2452 cruiser is in GREAT SHAPE! NEW 5.0 liter mercury with Alpha outdrive professionally installed less than 50 hours ago–new thru-hull exhaust with mufflers, stainless prop, dive platform with ladder, compass…”

The ad on Boat Trader went on to list plenty of other features — Furuno GPS navigator, depthfinder, fresh water outside shower, VHF radio, sink, electric refrigerator, and, among other items, a 2002 aluminum dual-axle trailer with new tires.

I’ve always liked the Bayliner 2452 because of how many things it can do well. It’s no wonder Bayliner still builds something like it in the 266 Discovery.

At 24 feet in length, the 2452 is big enough to use for ocean excursions. I don’t know that I’d take it from Jupiter, Fla., to Walker’s Cay, Bahamas, but it’s long enough to be comfortable on the ocean. Despite its length, it’s not too big to trailer, either, and this one was offered with a good trailer 10 years newer than the boat itself.

The 2452 works for overnighting. You won’t bask in luxury, but it can take you from Long Beach to Avalon Harbor, where you could spend the night aboard, as long as you didn’t need a place to shower.

The 2452 also can be fitted out for fishing and is still nimble enough to pull the kids on a tube. The cabin and cockpit design is closed enough to be useful on the cold Pacific Ocean, yet open enough to use on lakes and rivers during Florida’s sweltering summers.

In this particular case, the owner was asking $10,800 for the boat. I’d call that that a great price for a great package. Obviously, you would need to go look at it and give it a sea trial, but this used model has a lot going for it.

Spotting deals like this is part of the fun of poring over listings, always on the lookout for the next boat. (And by the way, as this blog goes live, the boat in question is still listed on Boat Trader. Scan the Bayliner 2452 listings page to see if it’s still there.)

trailer tires

Boat Trailer Tires

trailer tires

Special trailer tires (marked ST) have stiffer sidewalls and should be inflated to max pressure while carrying a load. They should never be used as passenger tires since they are not flexible enough.

Tire troubles are the number one reason for calls to BoatUS’s roadside assistance. When my buddy Lee asked me recently where he should get tires for his boat trailer, he was just considering one page of an encyclopedia of hard-earned trailer tire advice.

“Are you replacing them in pairs? How old are they? Are they dry-rotted?” went my barrage of questions. “They’re practically new,” Lee assured me, “from 2005 when I got the boat — I’ve only used the trailer a couple of times a year.”

Lee didn’t realize that eight-year-old tires are not new. I  told him that the average life of a trailer tire is  three to five years, even with very few miles on them. If the tires sit on the ground year-round and freeze in the mud over the winter, the sidewalls can break down, and they can also get flat spots from sitting. I gave him the following advice to preserve his tires in the future if his trailer isn’t in frequent use:

  • Jack or block up the trailer so the tires don’t sit on the ground.
  • Bleed a little air from the tires.
  • Cover the tires to prevent the sun from dry-rotting them.

Before you run out to buy new special trailer tires (marked ST) here are some things you should know.

Load Range

Make sure to get tires rated for the weight they are going to collectively carry. As an example, if you have a 5,000-pound boat and trailer package (GVWR) you’d want the tires to distribute this weight evenly, plus a 20-percent safety factor. So, each of my four tires should be rated for 1,500 pounds. Often, just replacing the original tires works, but to be sure, take a look at the tires’ sidewalls to identify the load range. ST metric-sized special trailer service tires will be branded with their load range on their sidewalls . See the accompanying picture to decipher the markings. In most cases it will be best to replace tires in pairs to ensure even wear and smooth running.

ST trailer markings

Trailer tires have their load range marked on the sidewall. Photo: Carlisle Transportation Products

 

To recap some of the main tips:

  • Buy the safe load range for your application.
  • Buy them in pairs for each axle.
  • Take the weight off them when not in use.
  • Cover them to prevent oxidation and dry rot.
  • Inflate to max pressure when in use. Under-inflated tires are the number one reason for failure.
  • Use a tire gauge to ensure max inflation; stiff sidewalls hide under-inflation.

Here are some other facts on trailer tires.

And here is more I’ve written about boat trailer maintenance.